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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@miah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>miah</span></a></span> never did!</p><p>I use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenNIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a>:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/dns.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/greyhat-academy/lis</span><span class="invisible">ts.d/blob/main/dns.servers.list.tsv</span></a></p>
Aral Balkan<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>codinghorror</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tomkahe.com/@trending_bot" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>trending_bot</span></a></span> Related, longer-term thought, in case it interests you: getting <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@letsencrypt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>letsencrypt</span></a></span> to work with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.privacytools.io/@opennic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>opennic</span></a></span> would put us on a path to set domain names free from the commercial system (after which we could try to get the EU to force browsers to support OpenNIC natively).</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/114173316981178689" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mastodon.ar.al/@aral/114173316</span><span class="invisible">981178689</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/OpenNIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/LetsEncrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LetsEncrypt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/freeTheDomain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freeTheDomain</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/domainNames" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>domainNames</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>internet</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/identity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>identity</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/decentralisation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralisation</span></a></p>
Aral Balkan<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@zbrando" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>zbrando</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://appdot.net/@morrick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>morrick</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ueeu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ueeu</span></a></span> You’re not wrong.</p><p>But, looking ahead, we can do so much better than the commercial domain name system.</p><p>Commercial domain names are a gold standard example of artificial scarcity. A domain name registrar cost next to nothing to operate. It’s tiny rows of text in a database. It could easily be free to own your own domain name – a huge part of what constitutes identity – on the Internet.</p><p>In fact, a non-commercial service has been operational for 24 years. It would be trivial to regulate that browsers in the EU implement support for it and work together with, say, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@letsencrypt" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>letsencrypt</span></a></span> to ensure it can handle TLS.</p><p>That would be an amazing addition to the commons and a future-proof way forward that we could lead on with next to no investment.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/domainNames" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>domainNames</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/DNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/openNic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>openNic</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/LetsEncrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LetsEncrypt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>commons</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>internet</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/freedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freedom</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/ICAAN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICAAN</span></a></p>
Aral Balkan<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://eldritch.cafe/@shahaan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>shahaan</span></a></span> Sadly, yes.</p><p>Our primary expression of identity on the web is something we rent from others. Because capitalism.</p><p>It should be something that’s free that we own as a human right.</p><p>Very easy to implement too, if we wanted to. The EU could easily fund it. We don’t even have to build it, OpenNIC has existed for decades. We could just legislate that browsers must support it in the EU and boom.</p><p><a href="https://www.opennic.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">opennic.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/domainNames" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>domainNames</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/identity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>identity</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>web</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/smallWeb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smallWeb</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/OpenNIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/eu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eu</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/tags/commons" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>commons</span></a></p>
🏳️‍⚧ melony franklin 🏳️‍⚧<p>Are there many <a href="https://retro.social/tags/gopher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gopher</span></a> holes out there in the <a href="https://retro.social/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opennic</span></a> space? I've only found one actual server through grep.geek</p>
grin<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>aral</span></a></span> It's not clear to me why <a href="https://mastodon.grin.hu/tags/OpenNIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a> should get <a href="https://mastodon.grin.hu/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> monopoly amongst the few dozen (or hundreds) altroots? Also not clear how you imagine "mandatory" and where. But you probably sense in my questions that I find this approach not just futile but extremely counterproductive, too.<br>Generally it's not wise to pick and support one service amongst of hundreds, it's called "unfair business preference".</p>
pinkprius [en]<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Fellmoon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Fellmoon</span></a></span> maybe <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>openNIC</span></a> is what you are looking for? <br><a href="https://servers.opennic.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">servers.opennic.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
fridaysforfuture, but everyday<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://switter.at/@MistressEmelia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>MistressEmelia</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://todon.nl/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>openNIC</span></a>:<br>OpenNIC is a user-owned and -controlled top-level Network Information Center that offers a non-national alternative to traditional Top-Level Domain (TLD) registries such as <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/icann" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICANN</span></a>.<br><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNIC" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNI</span><span class="invisible">C</span></a></p><p><a href="https://todon.nl/tags/guffi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>guffi</span></a>:<br>'Guifi.net is a free, open and neutral, mostly wireless telecommunications community network, with over 33,000 active nodes and about 46,000 km of wireless links...<br><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guifi.net" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guifi.</span><span class="invisible">net</span></a></p>
fridaysforfuture, but everyday<p><a href="https://todon.nl/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a></p><p>Looking for an open and democratic alternative <a href="https://todon.nl/tags/dns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a> root? Concerned about censorship?<br>OpenNIC might be a solution for you!" <br><a href="https://www.opennic.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">opennic.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>What? <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a> names the name servers of .bit inside .glue so you have to forward requests for .glue to them even if you only want .bit (<a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/namecoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Namecoin</span></a>). Sad! <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/dns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a></p>
Marcin Cieślak<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>aral</span></a></span> but what happens if the same TLD will be given away via <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/icann" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICANN</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a>? <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dns</span></a></p>
maxlath<p>so now we have HTTPS for free thank to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/letsencrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>letsencrypt</span></a> , I wonder when the ICANN/DNS mafia will fall: GO GO <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opennic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenNIC</span></a> !</p>