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With the core Solaris team laid off, here's Oracle's score card on how it did with Sun.

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@webmink Does this also signal the end of OpenIndiana and other projects derived from the former OpenSolaris?

@lnxw48a1 No, they were cut off when Oracle closed the source a while back. Any life they still have will be unaffected.

@webmink Makes me SO glad for Open {Solaris,Indiana} / Illumos.

@webmink was Libreoffice before the Oracle acquisition? Because that was another fish that escaped the gravitational suck of Oracle.

@craigmaloney @webmink LibreOffice was largely because of the Oracle acquisition is my understanding of history

@cwebber @webmink Right, but wasn't sure if it was not included because Oracle didn't get the chance to really mess it up. Though some might argue that sending OO over to the Apache foundation was admission that they list control of the office suite.

@cwebber @craigmaloney @webmink Wasn't the LO split because #ORCL refused to give up control of OO? Moving OO to #Apache after most non-corp devs left may have been a spiteful move to prevent TDF / LO from gaining the only thing they didn't have (the OpenOffice name).

@lnxw48a1 @craigmaloney @webmink Yeah, that's my reading... Oracle moving OO to Apache was an attempt to hold on despite the community having left

@cwebber They also had a responsibility towards IBM they had to satisfy. // @lnxw48a1 @craigmaloney

@webmink Reading this list of botched Sun projects is disheartening. So many great things took off under the Sun umbrella and it's a shame that a ham-fisted clod like Ellison was the one to take them and screw them up even further.

I wonder what keeps VirtualBox healthy in this environment, since it's the only product that hasn't turned to shit under Ellison's gaze. Do they have a Faraday cage or some amulet? And if so can we imprison Ellison with it?

@craigmaloney @webmink I read that VirtualBox is used quite a lot internally at Oracle. So maybe that helps keep the project going.